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I'll need to read a few more times and absorb some more. Great stuff, thank you!!

What are good "next steps" on an individual level? You went as far as encouraging people not to obsess on the issue and to build like-minded communities in the midst of the decline we'll see. I wonder if the following would help as well, but I'd love to read any further prescriptive thoughts you might have.

-Have as large of a family as possible while modern civilization is still at early-stage collapse, so that one can be well positioned when incentives change in later stages?

-Exit typical financial instruments/investments that take for granted the old paradigm enduring - the problem is what to direct capital to instead?

-Avoid real estate ownership, rent until the demographic tsunami crashes and makes its way inland a bit?

-Prepare for the return of subsistence farming? Is it going to go that far? I suppose your answer might be yes, given your blunt assessment that the amish will "replace" societies with wealth too high on the status ladder?

I suppose there are so many variables to how this will play out, and no one-size-fits-all strategies available. Red team does not offer a perfect way forward (refuse to stop pushing us to die for Israel), though blue team does seem like they've really swallowed all of the dysfunctional elements that have gotten us here and may crash harder as a result.

We'll all feel the decline surely, but what are some actionable ideas to cushion the blow?

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This is the best “why” explanation, rather than the typical “what” explanation I’ve yet seen on the topic.

I responded to Kurtz’s suggestions for fixing the problem with a very negative essay. To me, it seemed like the equivalent of;

“My house is infested with termites, how do I get rid of them?” and the answer; “Burn it down.”

I think if it was offered in the same spirit I see here I was actually mistaken in my response. If indeed the only way to fix declining fertility is undoing many (if not all) of the social structures we seem to value in the modern day, and that’s the only solution we can find, then the desire to preserve our existing structure wouldn’t matter in the face of the fatal trajectory, and the possible cure that’s worse than the sickness.

Maybe there is no solution, but then again, maybe there is. Even the captain of a sinking ship might, by bailing water at a rate less than it flows in, delay the inevitable long enough for an unexpected solution to arrive. An uncharted island, a passing ship, a whale swallows you whole like Jonah just to spit you out on land. Who knows!

A solution doesn’t need a TFR of 6, and it doesn’t need to be applied across the entire society evenly. Developed societies across the world have significantly different fertility rates, from as low as 0.7 to nearly replacement, so whatever the sickness is, the rate of progression isn’t consistent. If things could be arranged for a stable equilibrium, and bumped only slightly higher than their current rate in many parts of the world, the problem would be effectively mitigated, if not solved.

Maybe there is insight to be had from the conclusions you and Kurtz outline here. Maybe there’s some middle ground that doesn’t involve resetting the whole structure some wish to preserve. Or maybe it’s just an exercise of futility, and there’s no actual solution, so we should think about it for fun alone, or not at all. I wrote a piece about the “what” of the fertility crisis a while ago, and intended to follow it up with a piece about the “why” (talking about the alleged causes I’m sure you’ve seen elsewhere), but I eventually shelved it, since I think implicitly there was the realization that outside some very creative thinking I might not be capable of, the cure is distasteful and invalidates the whole project on its face.

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